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EN16 encoder acceleration

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𝚍̷𝚎̷𝚊̷𝚍̷ · · 8 replies

Hello!

I'm looking to buy an EN16 but I'm concerned about the rotary encoders' acceleration. Are they quite precise, or do they have a tendency to overshoot etc? I've only owned one well-known brand's MIDI controller with endless encoders before and they were a real disappointment.

Quality controllers like Ableton's Push have endless encoders and I've not heard people complaining about their reliability / predictability, so good endless encoders must exist.

My goal is to control my DAW's tracks and their plugins, so that's why I have my eyes on the EN16 over the PO16 which has potentiometers.

Thanks!

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kkerti kkerti ·

Hi! I think this is a subjective topic. Most of our users are happy with the velocity setting option provided by the encoder mode action block. There you can fine tune, how the accelerated encoder turns should react. We use detent encoders right now, which have 24 detents aroun 360 degree turn. Their feel is on par with quality controllers BUT there are detents. That can physically change the perception of accuracy for the control element and also makes it hard to compare it with the Push.

𝚍̷𝚎̷𝚊̷𝚍̷ 𝚍̷𝚎̷𝚊̷𝚍̷ ·

Thanks for the response. I'm glad to hear that most users think the encoders are decent.

Do the detents mean that the values you can set are quantized in any way? Probably a silly question, I'm just super picky if you couldn't tell.

If I went with the PO16 I'd avoid this issue, but always "picking-up" values when switching to other tracks would probably suck.

kkerti kkerti ·

Not sure if you can call quantization the fact, that if you very slowly rotate the encoder, the encoder will emit a single message on a single detent. But given the default velocity setting on the encoders (which on 0-200 range is set to 50), a normal encoder turn will match the value range changes in a similar speed and degree of potentiometer turn.

kkerti kkerti ·

Again, this is a bit subjective, because I think the encoders are good - hell I was involved in finding a good default tuning for it - but you might think it's not right.

kkerti kkerti ·

Right now we do have a generous return-full refund program, so if you decide to try it out, you have 30 days to check it and if it didn't meet your expectations, return the product.

𝚍̷𝚎̷𝚊̷𝚍̷ 𝚍̷𝚎̷𝚊̷𝚍̷ ·

Thanks again for another detailed response. It's appreciated. If the single message which gets emitted on the slowest turn of an encoder is more than +/- 1, they won't be for me. I know because I'll end up being frustrated otherwise. But it's good to know about the returns policy.

So last question: Can you reasonably accurately change by a value of 1 when turning slowly? Say between 0-127 (that range does sound a bit small though, but perhaps it's enough). I don't expect to be able to change a softsynth's frequency value from 16,000 to 15,999, but that would be neat I guess. I don't have much experience, I just know I didn't like the handling of my previous endless encoders.

kkerti kkerti ·

I think it can do well in the 0-127 range on a low velocity setting to make accurate adjustments.

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